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A New Independent Fundamentalist pastor who is notorious for being anti-LGBTQ+ encouraged parents to make sure their kids are in pain when spanking them.
Pastor Roger Jimenez, 35, of the Verity Baptist Church in Sacramento, discussed with Verity clergymen, Deacon Oliver Gonzalez, about not holding back when it comes to the disciplinary action.
"I think even a lot of Christians don't realize that the method that God has given us to discipline our children is a proper spanking," Jimenez said in the YouTube video picked up by Friendly Atheist.
He continued:
"But in our society today, sometimes people hear the word 'beat' and they get the wrong idea … when we're talking about spanking your children, we're not talking about abuse."
Nothing to see here. Just two fundamentalist Christian pastors bragging about how they hit their kids and why everyone else should do it too.\n\n"If you're spanking your children, and it doesn't hurt, you're not accomplishing anything."pic.twitter.com/xS2N0MIVhk— Hemant Mehta (@Hemant Mehta) 1632674769
Jiminez explained:
"In our church, we often try to train parents on how to properly discipline their children."
"And, you know, we teach parents that you never want to hit your children with, like, a closed fist. You never want to hit them somewhere where it would be inappropriate, like their face."
The pastor claimed that God "put a section of the body" on children where it is appropriate for spanking.
"And of course, we're talking about the bottom," he said, candidly, before going into logistics.
"There's a lot of nerve endings there. And there's a little extra cushion. And that's a place where you can administer a spanking in a proper way. And you're not going to injure the children."
"Because the goal is to spank the children and have it hurt. But the goal is to never injure them.
"We, of course, want the spanking to hurt. If you're spanking your children, and it doesn't hurt, you're not accomplishing anything."
Many social media users strongly objected to the pastor's idea of spanking.
This is sickening. Study after study has found that ANY form of corporeal punishment can have lasting serious negative psychological effects on children. These sickos are advocating for child abuse.— Mereel401 (@Mereel401) 1632679089
Beating women and children by men seems to be a feature in patriarchal religions.https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Wife_Beating_in_Islamic_Law\u00a0\u2026— Paul Revere (@Paul Revere) 1632676842
I never once spanked my children and they are perfectly respectful and disciplined. It\u2019s called parenting. It\u2019s not hard to be a respectful parent while addressing misdeeds and bad behavior.— Scoobie (@Scoobie) 1632677190
The last thing I ever wanted my kid to learn was to obey! My first rule for her was be polite. My second rule was figure out what you want to do and aim for that. The basic, continuous, underlying lesson was critical thinking.— carole anderson (@carole anderson) 1633241530
it sounds like a lesson in where to physically abuse a child so that evidence is hidden. horrible— Barry Carroll (@Barry Carroll) 1632731278
Some responded with sarcasm.
I get it now. It wasn't biology that gave us humans butts, it was God! Explicitly for the purpose of spanking! I'll have to see how my girlfriend receives the lords message...— shawn meyer (@shawn meyer) 1632677024
You want to teach parents how to properly physically discipline children? Let them practice on you to make sure they get the technique down correctly. Might take a few tries, be patient and be sure to turn the other cheek.— David Pelletier (@David Pelletier) 1632679655
Those who were once on the receiving end shared their negative experiences.
I never learned a single thing from being spanked as a child. Not a damn thing.— Troya Jamilyn (@Troya Jamilyn) 1632684615
having been abused by my parents\n\ndon't hit your kids\n\nit sets boys up to think hitting women is 'normal' and it sets girls up to think getting hit is 'normal'\n\nsomeone needs to get CPS on this\n\ndon't hit your kids— sam (@sam) 1632675147
Gonzalez concurred with pastor Jimenez and explained how spanking children the "proper way" would lead to a positive response.
"The world will demonize spanking. And, you know, what the world will say is that if you spank your kids, then your child is going to grow up to hate you."
"But, you know, what I've seen is that it's the complete opposite. It's that when you actually spank your kids in a proper way, the response is one of love … and when I spank them … the result is that they will learn to obey."
He added:
"And obviously, that's the goal … what we're doing is we're raising adults who will learn to obey their boss at work, learn to obey their pastor in a church, learn to obey their husband at home."
Jimenez concluded by saying that properly spanking children was "the loving thing to do."
"What you and I realize is that our kids are gonna learn that there are consequences to their action," he told the Deacon.
"Either way, they're either going to learn it from you and I, in our home, in a loving environment, or they're going to learn it when they grow up, you know, when they're getting beat down by the cops, or getting beat down by whoever."
Below is a YouTube clip of the pastor asking for donations to help a congregation that suffered from fraudulent bank activity.
Support Stedfast Baptist Church After Bank Account Theftyoutu.be
In the wake of Orlando's gay nightclub massacre at Pulse in 2016, that claimed the lives of 49 people and injured 53, Jimenez told his congregation that Orlando, Florida, was "a little safer.
The pastor added that he did not feel sorry for the "50 pedophiles" who died in the shooting.
Jimenez went on to declare the real tragedy was in how many of the club patrons were merely injured, and he said he was upset the gunman didn't "finish the job."
The YouTube video of his sermon was eventually removed because it was deemed a hate speech.