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The Best Reasons Why You Shouldn't Argue With An Idiot

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Reddit user Blaztwin asked: 'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." What's your best real life example of this?'

We've all found ourselves in a position where we simply couldn't contain ourselves and found ourselves putting someone in their place owing to something they said which was either wrong or just plain stupid.

When it comes to the latter category, though, it's often worth taking a minute to wonder if fighting that particular battle is even worth it.

As many people who are about to shoot down their current conversation partner might take a minute and really examine the person they're talking with before remembering the old saying: "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Sadly, some people remember this conversation too late, and find themselves falling down a conversational rabbit hole from which they may never escape.


Redditor Blaztwin was curious to hear the experiences of those who didn't remember their saying and argued with someone they wished they hadn't, leading them to ask:
“'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'.” What's your best real life example of this?"

They Literally Won't be "Shut Down"

"When I tell people to just reboot your computer and it will fix all their problems and yet they won't because they said if you wait long enough it will shut down, when in reality it only goes to sleep."

"Then when I tell them they have to completely shut it down they look at me like I'm an idiot and say they did."

"I tell them it seems like it but it only went to sleep."

"They argue back."- niallaa

Some People Just Don't Get It...

"I used to argue a lot with my sister when we were kids."

"She would do this thing where she would say something, and then I would reference back to it literally a minute or two later to prove a point and she would say 'I never said that' or 'that’s not what I said'."

"Absolutely impossible to argue with someone who will just deny having said things that could hurt their argument."

"Also, trying to change the course of an argument if they feel like they are 'losing'."

"A coworker once called me an idiot for doing something 'incorrectly' when I was actually doing it the right way."

"When I politely explained to them that the way they suggested doing the task didn’t actually work, they started asking 'why are you getting so angry?? I was just trying to help' etc."

"So now we’re arguing about whether I’m angry or not instead of the right way to complete the task."- themightypianocat

Facts Are Facts...

"Arguing is pointless if you do not agree on a set of facts."- niallaa

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You Can't Have It Both Ways...

"For a short while, I worked as a line cook at a Cracker Barrel, and there was a little saloon style door that led to the staff section (kitchen, bathroom, etc)."

"There was a staff only sign on the door, above the doors, and on the wall behind the doors at eye level."

"Usually if someone from the customer side comes in, they said, 'Coming in' before opening the door, so they didn't hit anyone, but of course customers didn't know that."

"So when this dude opened the door and hit a waitress carrying a ton of drinks, we were reasonably upset with him."

"He said, ;You should really put a sign up'."

"We showed him all the signs, and he goes, 'That seems a bit excessive'."- GreyFoxHound1

So Wrong.

"Had an employee sign an NDA about an upcoming art installation that had investors."

"He told everyone."

"He argued with me the NDA only meant he couldn’t disclose anything with the people in the company."- BosskHogg

He Knew What He Was Talking About

This was best said:

“'Never wrestle with pigs'."

"'You both get dirty and the pig likes it'.― George Bernard Shaw"- Zerowantuthri·

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Some Outdated Inventions Are Definitely Not Missed...

"I’m showing my age here but I used to work for an estate agency, and we had sales offices set up at the site of large new housing developments."

"Our primary method of communication was fax."

"One of the sales associates telephoned our office to say that the fax machine had run out of paper."

"No problem, I said, one of the guys is coming your way later for a house tour, I’ll give him a box of paper to give to you."

"We then had an almost 20 minute long argument when they kept insisting 'NO, YOU JUST SEND ME A BLANK FAX BECAUSE I NEED THE PAPER, IT WILL JUST COME OUT OF MY FAX MACHINE'.”

"It was like trying to nail jelly to a tree."

"Difficult, irritating, and it achieved nothing."- BettieKat

Very Few Hills Are Worth Dying On...

"I had a friend in university who was a world-class high school debater."

"Over meals, she liked to pick a ridiculous proposition and then talk circles around people until they had to concede to her point, no matter how absurd."

"When she tried it with me, I just stonewalled her."

"Met every point with a solid 'I don't think that's true'." or 'That doesn't make sense'."

"Eventually she gave up and never tried it with me again."

"It was the only time I've ever used the tactics of the stupid to win an argument."

"But, to be fair, if you're not arguing with me in good faith, I feel no obligation to respond in good faith."- kitskill

IS The Customer Always Right?...

"Working retail."

"Especially when I worked in the tech shop or a computer store."

" Trying to convince someone their $500 laptop is never going to be a gaming system no matter how many of the very few replaceable parts we throw at it can be exhausting."- MOS95B

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Education Only Matters If You Learned Something....

"Was arguing with this dude about something math-related."

"He didn’t know how to read a study that involved statistics. claimed he was in multiple AP math classes."

"Tried saying that I 'probably don’t even know basic integration'."

"Gave me a common integration problem."

"He wrote it but forgot the minus sign, making it unsolvable."

"I pointed it out and he edited the comment to make it correct."

"Told him that some people can see when you edit comments."

"He claimed that he just capitalized a letter. on and on and on."- SaturdayNightCity

Good Legal Counsel Might Be Worth The Splurge...

"I asked a representative from the Friend of the Court to explain something she said and she told me that I understood what she was saying."

"I replied that I wouldn't have asked her to explain if I had understood."

"She said if I was going to be difficult, she would hold me in contempt."

"My X chimed in that she didn't quite understand what she had said and was greeted with a smile and an explanation."

"From that point on I always disagreed with the Friend of the Court on EVERYTHING, so that I could be seen by the 'Actual Court' and a Judge."- PURPLEPEE

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Sore Winners Are No More Attractive Than Sore Losers...

"Once worked with a guy who, by his own admission, got his rocks off by picking fights."

"He'd start an argument over the smallest thing."

"If you said it was white, he'd say it was black, just to try to start something."

"The one that always stood out for me was the weather app competition."

"One day he asked me what temperature it was, so I read it off my weather app."

"He got all offended, because his weather app said it was a couple degrees warmer."

"So he decides we're going to have a weather app competition."

"He was going to chart what our apps said the temperature was, and at the end of the week, whichever one was closest to that day's high would be the winner."

"And the loser would have to start using the winner's app."

"To which I said, "What is your f*cking problem?'"

"So, yeah."

"For the first few days, he'd make a big performance about marching into my office, recording the temperature off my app, jotting down some notes, and walking off."

"This started on a Monday."

"He gave up after Wednesday."

"Either because I was winning, or he was disappointed because, despite his best efforts, I just did not give a f*ck about weather apps."

"Or maybe the boss told him to stop because I filed a complaint that this was bordering on harassment."- originalchaosinabox

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It should perhaps be said calling someone an idiot, or even thinking it, is not a particularly nice thing to do.

Even so, if you're tempted to do so when you're in the presence of a particular individual, probably best not to provoke them.

After all, if you're so determined to "win," does it really make you any better than them?

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